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From: chris on 09/09/2002
fatal exception 0E has occured at 0167:BFF8AB97

The above blue screen error comes up atleast 33%

of the time I switch on the machine ...

It happens in all my 2 machines


specs:-
1)motherboard Asus : A7N266-VM
2)processor: ATHLON 1700XP in one machine
and DURON 1.1 in another
3) RAM : DDR 256MB in one machine and
DDR 128MB in another
4)both machines have network cards and
CD ROM drive ....
5) Windows 98 SE


how do I trouble shoot this error

chris

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From: Arniceous on 03/27/2005
A Fatal exception OE has occured at 0167:BFF8AB97 or 0167:BFF87164 There is only one methode for fixing this issue this procedure will work. Fallow this and you soon will be healed!

*** REASON ***

This is a Page Fault interrupt. It typically occurs when Windows tries to access virtual memory on a demand-paged basis and the requested page of memory is missing or damaged, or when a paging protection rule is otherwise violated. When occurring in the 0028 memory range, it nearly always means that a DEVICE DRIVER is implicated in the problem.

*** Solution ***

Isolate the Bad Device. If unsure, look all devices loading in the registry and narrow your choice down.

*** Directions ***

1. Click Start, and then click Run.

2. In the Open box, type regedit, and then click OK.

3. In Registry Editor, expand the following registry subkey:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

4. On the Registry menu, click Export Registry File.

5. In the Export Registry File dialog box, type RunKey in the File name box, and then click Save.

NOTE: The contents of the Run key are saved in the RunKey.reg file. If you later want to undo the following changes to the registry, double-click RunKey.reg. You will be prompted to add the information from Runkey.reg to the registry.

6. In the right pane, right-click the device that is problomatic click Delete on the shortcut menu that appears.

7. Click Yes in response to the Confirm Value Delete message that appears.

8. Click Yes in response to the Confirm Value Delete message that appears.

9. Quit Registry Editor.

10. Restart your computer.

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From: Toji on 06/19/2004
any problems
write toji@keralaglobal.com
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From: Toji Jose on 04/12/2004
My ASUS A7N266 with 98SE had same problem. I tried more days to solve the problem .First add PCI sound card,disable joystick ,disable LPT,changing RAM ect .But not to solve the problem.
I had visited from this site I got a new idia about of DOLBY DIGITAL CONTROLLER. I had changed in SETUP the following options.
Setup >Advanced > Chip configuration > and then disable MCP DOlby digital controller .
But major problem of the this MB was the IRQ conflict. Adding daughter card in three PCI slots in the same time is not possible. If more time to try adding PCI cards, but not its work properly. Disabling or changing IRQ settings in BIOS, some times CD drive not working, some times mouse not working , modem not working and system not start ect are the problems of the MB in WIN98SE. I had more times try to connect a sound card + network card and internal modem in same time. But I failed in this MB.
Also system will stuck when connected to net and playing
videos.

But no problems reports this MB in Redhat Linux 9.
I had downloaded sound driver from Nvidia it works satisfactory in RH9.

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From: muldis on 01/23/2004
having the same problem using windows 98se on the ASUS A7N266VM mobo with 2000xp cpu and 512mb RAM and this is on four different machines,

as well as the blue screen error on startup also have a problem with the machines shuting down, they all locked up on shutdown, tried use the windows shutdown patch, no change. changed the cpu and ram on all the machines still the same fault. Even went as for as disabling the com ports, LPT1 port and gameport as the ports are not being used, but nothing seem to work. ASUS tech surport in there wisdom advised tring the windows update (yer right what do they know there about as relible as the download server, don't get me wrong I like asus mobo's run a P4P800 in my home machine with no problems, fantastic mobo)
was just about to give up and install windows xp but after reading this site i see i'am not the only one having this problem, got a couple of ideas from this site, (thanks guys) but found not all of them worked, and I finally solve the problem by doing the following steps.

1. update the BIOS using the latest release on the ASUS website (WOW the download server was working) done this through DOS not the auto update.
2. disabled the MCP dolby digital controller in the bios
3. installed the drivers using the 98/ME drivers from the ASUS web site.

since then all four machine have been working fine..
Hope this helps
Good luck.
Muldis
LONG LIVE THE EMPIRE (SWG)

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From: Vivek on 01/23/2004
mY CONFIGURATION:
AMD ATHLON 200+
ASUS A7N266-VM MOTHERBOARD
WIN XP PROFFESIONAL

I think there are a lot of prejudices being created in the minds of people by these postings,I mean as a buyer of a new PC,I got really concerned that whether the day before I made the correct decision.Either there are very less no of people appreciative of the performance(of the motherboard in particular) or there are many people who'll love it but just don't care to post a reply

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From: syam on 01/17/2004
Hi all

for all those who have a pro with sblive value and emm386 there is a solution.u can avoid this by installing the software provided for sblive and not value.this has solved the pro 4 me.there wont be any conflict or any loss in audio quality.

skkp2000@yahoo.com

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From: Jonathan on 01/10/2004
Nvidia has a unified driver which seems to fix this problem here.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/nforce_udp_win9x_2.41

They also have a new Graphics driver which seems to solve some other problems here:

http://www.nvidia.com/object/win9x_53.04

Hope that helps

Jon

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From: Frank on 12/11/2003
Hey guys,

I have the same 0E error message once a while when starting a machine for a customer.

EXCEPT he's using an INTEL D815EPEA2 board with an ATI video card ... This is questionning ASUS and NVIDIA as the cause?!

One thing that we all seems to have in common is that we run Win98, anyone tried with 2K or XP ?

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From: Derek on 11/29/2003
I have an Asus A7n266-VM and I get page frame problems with Emm386 with Win98SE. The problem is that Emm386 requires a 64k page frame and the onboard video for this M/B uses up some of it(or at least Emm386 thinks it does). You can set Emm386 not to use the 64k page frame but then any programs that use expanded memory won't work. Unfortunately I like to play those old DOS games and the DOS sound emulator for my SB Live card requires expanded memory so I'm stuck. I'm not sure whether getting a separate video card will even help as the BIOS still allocates some of the memory regardless whether you're using onboard video or not. If you disable Emm386 in the Config file then you'll be ok, but won't be able to get sound on the old dos games. So no sound for me in DOS. But Win98SE doesn't require emm386 so at least windows is ok. BTW my system will also sometimes restart when running graphics intensive programs in Win98SE. Asus sucks.
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From: joydeep on 11/14/2003
same problem !!
suggest a soln.
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From: Aneesh on 10/06/2003
Dear.....
Correct this problem..
Go to Setup >Advanced > Chip configuration > and then disable MCP DOlby digital controller....

This function my not work in WIN98 se...
if you have anything more doubt
pls mail me..
sreemoolam@hotmail.com

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From: frauz on 09/26/2003
If you installed Executive Software Diskeeper (an utility for defrag) try deleting this line from autoexec.bat:

rem SET Path=%Path%;C:\Programmi\Executive Software\DiskeeperWorkstation\

You will solve the problem for boot soon, but then I had another fatal exception closing machine. To solve this too, press ctrl-alt-canc and close "dkservice" before closing machine.

;-) try!

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From: cyberplanet on 09/25/2003
Hi there,

now here is my error report *g*

System
Mainboard: What do you think? Hehe, it's an ASUSN266-VM
CPU: AMD XP 1800+
the rest says nothing.

I like this board... *grmbl* Yes, I need to load the EMM386! Our Software is written in Clipper and can't be without some higher resistent memmory.
What I tryed to resolve the problem:

-Installed newest BIOS flash from www.asus.com
-Deactivated the Onboard Sound
-Installed some new AGP GFX Card

And nothing works.... Everytime I boot up the System with loading EMM386 in my config.sys the machine hang up on windows boot screen. I saw that after 5 to 10 minutes the Computer boot up completly, but that couldn't be, the user would kill me if he had to wait 5 to 10 minutes to make his work =D
Yeah, you might recognized it, I'am running the machine on a Win98 SE!
My Boss sayd that must be some Conflict with the oboard GFX Card and the shared memmory the chip uses. You saw that I tryed it with some new AGP card, too. The Problem with this solution was the bios abilitys to deactivate the onboard gfx chip. There is nowere any possibility to deactivate it comletly!

So I think there is no more hope for this mainboard! Next I'm going to install a win2k on the test system, make some special config.sys for the clipper programm and hope for that will work..
After this I'm going to inform you about what the machine say'd to win2k!

Stay tuned and have some grace with my english (me is some german =D)

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From: Fabio on 07/21/2003
For resolve the problem , you don't need disable all the voice of the integrated sound in the BIOS!!!!

You must disable the Dolby voice in the BIOS.

Fabio



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From: Ectoplasma on 06/23/2003
Hi, when i start my PC the next message appears "EMM386 not installed - unable to set page frame base address.
"."Press a key to continue" My system specifications are:
ASUS A7N266-VM Motherboard
AMD Athlon 2000 XP CPU
20 GB hard disk
Windows 98SE
Sound Blaster PCI128 external sound card (correctly installed!)

If i edit my config.sys file i can disable EMM386.exe typing "EMM386.exe NOEMS" and the problem disappears, but my DOS Atari Emulators don't work (I'm an 80's nostalgic). My question is If my PC doesn´t load EMM386.exe, this will have an effect on my PC performance? Is necesary to install Windows XP or NT to resolve this problem....WHAT CAN I DO ????????????

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From: dabeaka on 04/17/2003
... Low & Behold ... ASUS Website released a new updated video driver for 98se on 4/17/03 ... but I cant seem to be able to download it because all the links are failing.

I will try later. I will post my findings.

Anyone else able to download the new driver? VGAW9XME-177... 177 2003/04/17 Win98SE Nvidia Geforce2 VGA driver for Win9x

Regards.

dabeaka.

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From: Bruce on 04/16/2003
Hi,

I've got the A7N-266VM installed at a few clients, all using WinXP. Occassionly a few clients would call to tell me the PC shuts down for no reason. I am relating this problem to all your problems, though I am suspecting that XP reacts in a SHUTDOWN instead of the FATAL EXCEPTION error you guys have been experiencing. I will NEVER purchase this motherboard again!!

I used to be so confident with ASUS, I have an Asus A7A266 and it never ever gave me problems and it works brilliantly. Unforturnately its not the same with the A7N-266VM. I hate it.

I recently built an A7N-266VM but I got a seperate Geforce4 video card for it, 512Mb RAM, AthlonXP2100+ and 60Gb 7200 hard drive, WinXP. Client hasn't called yet. Hope it doesn't happen!!!

If you get any info on how to solve this problem it would be great to know.

Thanks guys.

catch ya later!!!

bruce

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From: Bill V. on 03/18/2003
I purchased 3 of computer with ASUS A7N266-VM/AA motherboards.
Each one blue screens:
A fatal exception error 0E has occurred at 01A7 or 018F or 0167 [depending on which compter] :BFF8AB97 [BFF8AB97 is always the same on each computer]. Application will be terminated.

The configuration consists of: 128 DDR (crucial), Athlon XP 1700+, 40 gig Maxtor 7200, WIN 98se.

I've talked to ASUS 2 times so far; The first time they said I needed Mushkin DDR memory and that crucial memory was crap. I had some 256mb 2100 Mushkin in another computer so I tried it. Still got the blue screens.

The 2nd time I talked to ASUS the tech said that the A7N266 series doesn't like win98. (I must use win 98 for compatibility with the application we use here). He said it works be you must install the drivers exactly as it says in the manual. So, I formatted one of the computers and reinstalled win98. [Interestingly without the motherboard drivers on it yet, after 30 reboots the computer didn't blue screen] I installed the drivers as best I could follow ASUS's very poorly written win 98 install instructions. Still Blue screens.

So, I now believe, ASUS doesn't support win 98 on the entire A7N266 series. The flaw is not in memory, power supplies, or technician error. There are no 100% driver for win 98. These are most likely alpha drivers never developed to the point of release quality. Most likely a cost cutting measure.

So I am returning all 3. I'm not sure what I'll buy but I'll make sure of win 98 compatibility.

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From: DrEzNiA on 03/11/2003
as all others i have the same problem on 2 boxes purchased 3months apart with different config but same motherboard.after ripping out all my hair i found this forum..:)..i have disabled the sound,added cheap(12$) sound cards CMI chipset and have been running a reboot program for 11149 boots successfull so far...when disabling sound card....P.S. don't forget to disable mcp dolby as well as onboard sound in advanced and joystick under i/o devices...cheap solution...:)
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From: dabeaka on 02/24/2003
*** MORE ***

==================


File Edit Search View Options Help
+--------------------------- C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE ----------------------------
¦
¦EMM386 already installed.
¦
¦3EMM386 not installed - XMS manager not present.
¦
¦GWARNING: This version of HIMEM.SYS may cause conflicts with EMM386.
¦
¦BEMM386 not installed - other expanded memory manager detected.
¦
¦EMM386 driver not installed.
¦EMM386 Active.
¦EMM386 Inactive.
¦DExpanded memory data is inaccessible until EMM386 is re-activated.
¦EMM386 is in Auto mode.
¦Unable to activate EMM386.
¦UUnable to de-activate EMM386 as UMBs are being provided
¦and/or EMS is being used.
¦&Unable to place EMM386 in Auto mode.
¦(Weitek Coprocessor support is enabled. File Edit Search View Options Help
+--------------------------- C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE ----------------------------
¦Invalid parameter specified.
¦4[HMAon] is an invalid parameter on this machine.
¦
¦0Insufficient memory for UMBs or virtual HMA.
¦
¦#Page Frame Base Address adjusted.
¦$Mapping Register Address adjusted.
¦(Size of expanded memory pool adjusted.
¦:WARNING: Option ROM or RAM detected within page frame.
¦
¦CWARNING: EMM386 installed without a LIM 3.2 compatible Page Frame
¦+WARNING: User specified ranges overlap.
¦
¦.WARNING: Weitek Coprocessor not installed. File Edit Search View Options Help
+--------------------------- C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE ----------------------------
¦Invalid parameter specified.
¦4[HMAon] is an invalid parameter on this machine.
¦
¦0Insufficient memory for UMBs or virtual HMA.
¦
¦#Page Frame Base Address adjusted.
¦$Mapping Register Address adjusted.
¦(Size of expanded memory pool adjusted.
¦:WARNING: Option ROM or RAM detected within page frame.
¦
¦CWARNING: EMM386 installed without a LIM 3.2 compatible Page Frame
¦+WARNING: User specified ranges overlap.
¦
¦.WARNING: Weitek Coprocessor not installed.
¦
¦/EMM386 not installed - insufficient memory.
¦
¦1EMM386 not installed - incorrect DOS version.
¦
¦2EMM386 not installed - incorrect machine type.
¦
¦AEMM386 not installed - unable to set page frame base address.

¦
¦/EMM386 not installed - insufficient memory.
¦
¦1EMM386 not installed - incorrect DOS version.
¦
¦2EMM386 not installed - incorrect machine type.
¦
¦AEMM386 not installed - unable to set page frame base address.

¦)Weitek Coprocessor support is disabled.
¦-Unable to enable Weitek Coprocessor support
¦.Unable to disable Weitek Coprocessor support

+--------------------------- C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE ----------------------------
¦)Weitek Coprocessor support is disabled.
¦-Unable to enable Weitek Coprocessor support
¦.Unable to disable Weitek Coprocessor support
¦#Weitek Coprocessor not installed.
¦BWeitek Coprocessor is inaccessible until EMM386 is re-activated.
¦3Turns on or off EMM386 expanded memory support.
¦
¦+EMM386 [ON | OFF | AUTO] [W=ON | W=OFF]
¦
¦H ON | OFF | AUTO

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From: dabeaka on 02/24/2003
*** OK ... Here's what I came up with ...

I booted to Windows(using 98se) and I went to my Start Menu ... and started "MsDos" from the program list.

While in there ... I typed "Edit" ... and went into "File" ... Then "Open" ... I then went into the Directory and Opened "EMM386.exe" within the Windows Directory.

After opening I found the following and perhaps someone can explain ... I think it is a Log of all my bad starts ... SO MAYBE , JUST MAYBE JIM IS RIGHT!!!

=======================================================

¦EMM386/Windows interface failure. EMM386 will remain off.
¦$0reBoot .ContinueO
¦EMM386 has detected error #xx in an application
¦at memory address xxxx:xxxx.ñ To minimize the chance
¦of data loss, EMM386 has halted your computer.
¦For more information, consult your documentation.
¦
¦To restart your computer, press ENTER.r
¦EMM386 DMA buffer is too small. Add D=xx to your EMM386 linein CONFIG.SYS. I
¦}consult your documentation for help on installing EMM386,
¦When your machine restarts, press F5 or F8 to bypass this error.
¦h
¦EMM386 Privileged operation error # xx -
¦Deactivate EMM386 and Continue (C) or reBoot (B) (C or B) ? 9

File Edit Search View Options Help
+--------------------------- C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE ---------------------------
¦EMM386: DMA mode not supported. Press ENTER to reboot.N
¦EMM386: Unrecoverable privileged operation error #xx - press ENTER to rebootP
¦EMM386: Unable to start Enhanced Mode Windows due to base memory back fill.
¦$j
¦EMM386: Unable to start Enhanced Mode Windows due to invalid path
¦ specification for EMM386.
¦$Press any key when ready...
¦1EMM386 not installed - incorrect DOS version.
¦
¦W
¦Windows Expanded Memory Driver Version 4.95
¦Copyright 1988-1995 Microsoft Corp.
¦
¦4 Available expanded memory . . . . . . . . %1KB
¦
¦*Expanded memory services unavailable.
¦
¦3 LIM/EMS version . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4.0
¦1 Total expanded memory pages . . . . . . . %1
¦1 Available expanded memory pages . . . . . %1
¦1 Total handles . . . . . . . . . . . . . . %1
¦1 Active handles . . . . . . . . . . . . . %1


File Edit Search View Options Help

+--------------------------- C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE ----------------------------
¦1 Active handles . . . . . . . . . . . . . %1
¦5 Page frame segment . . . . . . . . . . . NONE
¦
¦5 Page frame segment . . . . . . . . . . . %1 H
¦
¦4 Total upper memory available . . . . . . %1 KB
¦4 Largest Upper Memory Block available . . %1 KB
¦5 Upper memory starting address . . . . . . %1 H
¦
¦"EMM386 successfully installed.
¦
¦EMM386 Active.
¦
¦¶EMM386 Inactive.
¦
¦XEMM386 Inactive.
¦Expanded memory data is inaccessible until EMM386 is re-activated.
¦
¦EMM386 is in Auto mode.
¦(Weitek Coprocessor support is enabled.
¦)Weitek Coprocessor support is disabled.
¦DWeitek Coprocessor is inaccessible until EMM386 is re-activated.

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From: dabeaka on 02/24/2003
=======

Jim ... one more thing : "Conclusion: Windows 98SE works with this board if you don't use emm386.exe (which, btw, is almost NEVER required by anything today). Windows 98 will NOT work with this board."

**** I do remember specifically in the ASUS Book when reading it ... it says "You must remove previously installed drivers to prevent conflicts" ****

Is this what they meant ?

Thanks.

dabeaka.

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From: dabeaka on 02/23/2003
Jim,

"Having the emm386.exe can also create windows protection errors. Remove it and you don't get the windows protection error."


===============================================

Thanks ... BUT >>> can you explain 'how to' actually REMOVE it (step by step for those of us who might be idiots) ? LOL !

dabeaka.

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From: Jim on 02/22/2003
From: Jeff on 09/25/2002,

Jeff stated that these boards were not rated for 98se. Most certainly there are errors with the original Windows 98.

My tests yesterday proved that it is impossible to get the system to run properly and have all the drivers enabled on an original Windows 98 installation. My tests went this way:

1. Install 98 clean then install the drivers. The network and sound card drivers don't work.

2. Wipe the 98 install. Download the updated driver and bios. Reinstall the original Windows 98. Install the updated drivers. Check to see if the NIC and sound drivers worked. Nope. Not at all.

3. I wiped the drive again. Installed WinXP and tested the nic and sound. These worked perfectly. Fantastic.

4. I wiped XP and installed Windows 98SE. Installed the drivers. Worked perfectly. Fantastic.

5. Upon reboot, after installing the Systems Management Bus drivers, PCI to host bride, and the ram controllers from Nvidia's drivers I experienced continuous "Windows protection errors." I renamed my config.sys and autoexec.bat to get rid of the emm386.exe load. After doing this the system booted stably every time.

Conclusion: Windows 98SE works with this board if you don't use emm386.exe (which, btw, is almost NEVER required by anything today). Windows 98 will NOT work with this board.

Addendum: I found a copy of the Windows 98 Service Pack 1. After installing it on a clean install I installed the drivers for this board and the nic and sound did NOT work.

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From: Jim on 02/21/2003
I meant, in my first post, to say "remember to remove".
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From: Jim on 02/21/2003
The problem is not due to board malfunction. It is a driver issue. The exception error will GO AWAY if you remember emm386.exe from your config.sys. Personally, windows doesn't require a config.sys nor autoexec.bat to run, so I don't feel bad about recommending it. In fact, it is probably preferred that you not try to load real mode drivers any more if you can avoid it.

I have had the problem repeatedly on every single purchase of that board. I will no longer buy that model.

ASUS claiming that the powersupply is the cause is outright incompetence.

Having the emm386.exe can also create windows protection errors. Remove it and you don't get the windows protection error.

Companies that claim specific RAM requirements (manufacturer and model) are way out there and with the slew of problems associated with some of the more recent asus boards, this is probably the first indications of their death knell.

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From: udhaya on 02/14/2003
i purchased my comp only a few days back the same error(0167:bff8ab970167:bff8ab97)is hapening again and again.
motherboard Asus : A7N266-VM
processer : AMD2ghz
Memory : 128
Its high time someone sues ASUS!
waiting for a solution
:(

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From: dabeaka on 02/11/2003
One more thing ... I am using Athlon XP2000

Regards.

dabeaka.

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From: dabeaka on 02/11/2003
Holy Crap !!!

I cant believe I found this site in a web search!

I have the same exact problem with the same ASUS board(On board Lan, Sound, Video) 512mb Crucial Micron ddr 2100( 2x256 ), WIN98se, 60Gig hdd, Cd Burner.

I thought that maybe it was one of the Jumper Settings On the Board ... but after reading this thread ... I realized that when I was installing the Drivers with the ASUS Cd ... there was one Driver that WAS NOT in the right directory on the Cd. I had to use a Driver from "I THINK" the WinMe Folder ... its been a while now and I forget ... think it was the video driver ... I may have to research this a bit further.

But I do remember it took me a while to find one of the drivers because it was in a different folder.

I too get this Blue Screen Error Message about 33% of the time!

WOW !!! At least its not JUST MY PROBLEM! LOL ! I guess until it gets figured out ... there's no harm in rebooting and selecting "Normal Mode" on reboot! LOL !

*** If anyone gets a solution ... PLEASE post a.s.a.p. !!!

Thanks.

dabeaka.

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From: Jim on 02/11/2003
Well the problem seem to be in the Asus motherboard and Win 98SE, I have the same MB but with a Duron 1.3 and same problem here.
...
Updating BIOS now
...
Uhm, looks like a BIOS update fix the problem, I'm still testing with the new BIOS, but no Blue Screen till now.

Enjoy.

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From: ShtreetRehzor on 01/24/2003
Hi Fellow P-Off owners of that irritating MB

Just to let you know, it's not the Powersupply or the ram. I am running 2 diff machines with that MB, but diff powersupplies, memory and cpu. It goes fine on XP - no problems yet, but for the love of all thing good and holy do not even try and win the battle with running Win98SE. As from the above replies there is clearly nothing that the lovers of 98 can do. Give up, buy a new MB or upgrade to XP proffesional. I haven't trien XP home, but I've heard non-good thing about it.

Well, that's my 10c

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From: Eric on 01/19/2003
Same problem with new AMD XP 1700 and ASUS Motherboard. Please help!!
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From: vicky on 01/16/2003
thats the exact problem here too
blue screen
0E 0167:BFF8AB97

possible remedies i read in the messages:
-sound
-video
-power

power-using a Stablizer = still problem

PLEASE Suggest :
how to DISABLE Sound and/or Video cards
and The ALTERNATIVES if any

thank u in advance


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From: Outrigger on 01/03/2003
http://www.lugod.org/microsoft/
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From: scott on 01/02/2003
I have the same Board Asus A7N266-VM I have been building on this platform for many of my customers this is the first time I have had this issue with 98SE so based on what has been said I figured it might be the power supply (like was said)

Unfortunatly I have swaped power supply and it has not resoved the issue. I am upgrading to XPpro and that seems to be the only fix.

Strang that it only happens with certian systems even after I swapped motherboard RAM power supply This makes me think Proccesor? But if XP fixes issue then screw Asus they should give better support for 98se witch is still so commenly asked for by end users. I will think twice before recomending Asus so Highly again. I have had great luck with MSI and VIA chipsets...

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From: Computerpilot on 12/26/2002

Definitely sounds like bad hardware. You should probably look into your video card as being the culprit. If you are playing games and your system just shuts down, it is possible that your video card is causing the problem. I know that Asus has a CPU temperature detection shut down device that will shut down the computer if the CPU gets too hot. That is also something that I would look into as a possibility.

If you are running Windows XP with the ACPI HAL, you will most likely be sharing a lot of IRQ with too many devices. You may want to switch to a Standard PC IRQ and change the IRQ assignments around with different devices to increase stability. This can also be accomplished with the ACPI HAL by moving devices on the PCI bus around to get Windows to change IRQ assignments.

Hope this helps.

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From: Neville on 12/24/2002
I have also an Asus A7N266-VM Motherboard.
AMD Athlon(tm)1700+ Processor
Windows 98 SE
256 DDR ram
20 Gig HD
Samsung CD rom
Samsung CD RW
56 k Internal modem

I have exactly the same ERROR & MORE. I purchased a new PC in September with a DFI AM33-EC board (Pci). I was advised to change to the Asus A7N266-VM, as 90 % of the time the PC is used for games. It is a PC for home use. I regret the day this happened just 6 weeks ago. The machine has been back 6-8 times now and WHAT A HUGE DISSAPIONTMENT. ASUS has NO customer support as I even e-mailed them 3 days before installing the motherboard to ask them for advise on the correct board for my needs.
A week later I got a pathetic reply not answering my question at all. It was all toooooooo.... late I had had the board fitted. Sound was up to sh1t also a SHORT sound was heard from the speakers on booting up, they fitted a sound card which I purchased. 30 % of my games do not work properly. I have found that the sytem is SOOOO.... slow in comparison to the board I had. Its slow between windows and opening and closing documents, files, programs and the internet etc. It takes Looonng to load an already installed game. While playing Midtown madness 2 with the disc, the computer shuts down by itself. Nvidia Chipsets that are supported by games do not all work. I am so sick and tired of this Motherboard and all the expenses occured I feel like BURNING THIS HEAP OF SH1T.
I have formatted my Hard drive.They have updated the board with some new FIX from Asus which has not helped matters.(Think it was a board, sound and graphics fix). Latest Bios 1005 etc. Have done all the windows updates etc..
I feel like telling them to fit my old board back as it works far better than this......
Can someone PLEASE HELP OR ASVISE...Thanks.

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From: Computerpilot on 12/19/2002

This error message is usually associated with a video card. I would replace the video card drive with the most updated version. These errors are frequent with GeForce video cards and windows 9X operating systems.

A combination of the GeForce video card, VIA chipset, and an AMD Thunderbird processor tend to have a similar error message that many people have not found the cure for yet. By disabling the sound, you may actually be doing what is necessary to get the VIA chipset memory and power usage down to compensate for the video card AGP.

Good luck.

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From: Leslie on 12/19/2002
I also get this problem regularly. I have three of these machines, and this is my list of problems:

1. Start->run makes a cordless keyboard and mouse stop working
2. Fatal exception OE most of the time when booting
3. SuSE Linux 8.1 needs some work to install in the 55k low mem
4. Sound snaps and pops when staring up windows
5. Writing a CD in Linux or Windows often makes the harddrive fail
6. Motherboard tries to put my SMC network card on the same IRQ as many other things - and it fails.

I have just disabled onboard sound - will see if that helps.

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From: Daniel on 11/23/2002
We just got 7 x A7N266-VM - o/b VIDEO/AUDIO/LAN 256 DDR (32mb shared) Athlon XP 2000+ processors and all 98SE.

Had this issue about 10% of the time. After reading here I disabled the onboard audio and so far the fault has not returned.

I disabled the onboard audio in the bios under Advanced, Chip Configuration, MCP Audio > Disabled and MCP Dolby Digital > Disabled.

May have to ask supplier for sound cards if the client needs it.

Hope this works for you.

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From: Crisspy on 11/20/2002
Same exact problem. Found this thread by Googling "bff8ab97". Running A7N-266VM, 256MB ?brand?, mid-grade PSU, using Nvidia for sound and graphics under Win98SE, updated bios, etc.. Hell and damnation. Asus has non-existant customer support. Blame the customer. What a shame. Sound drivers seem to be the big problem, although all driver support for 98SE is problematic. The sound utility won't even run w/o crashing the machine. Oh yeah, and I can't get EMS support in DOS, there's only 55k available in Himem. I'm F#*^$@&(ed. Anyone with any suggestions other than changing OS's? That I simply can't do. Wish I could.
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From: Ken on 11/15/2002
Isn't it strange that Linux can be stable on it? Would that mean drivers or OS is the problem, so it's not hardware?
Any chance it's PnP messing up? Can you put it into a mode where you assign everything and PnP is off? I think Linux is a non PnP system, or it does it's own PnP not like bill gates the boy wonder that can't program worth crap.
Wouldn't you think it's not a IRQ or other such problem, but more of a OS or driver that can't handle the new hardware?
I think you may be right XP or NT would probably work better.
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From: Guru^garzaH on 11/15/2002
Hmm I don’t know exactly what you mean by downgrading your bus speed to 133? Did you mean from 133? Anyway I have the same problem. I tried new memory, I had some cheap stuff in there and decided to use crucial. The fatal exception did go away but was replaced with a Beep code stating there was no memory. Crazy I mean the machine will religiously boot up no problem most of the time. I can go through do a clean install, install the drivers "any set of them" and just reboot the machine and the error will appear after an average of 7 times. So I am saying that with crucial DDR I get "only after 7 reboots" no memory error "Beeep-beeep-beeep" or I will get the fatal exception with other memory. I tried a new power supply and same thing regardless of what wattage or brand I am talking 35 volts to the 5 AMP. I am not sure if indeed this MB is not rated for WIN98SE since they have drivers for it on there website. I do however understand that Windows98 is unsupported "first edition" So I don’t know why Nvidia would make a chipset driver for 98SE if they did not rate it for that. However I can almost guarantee that the problem would be fixed if XP or 2K were installed on the machine. It just sucks though, I am so sick of these inconsistent models of crap that is released lately "NAMELY ASUS". The jumper settings for the memory and bus speed are wrong in the manual for this stupid board. The right ones are silk-screened on the board.. or you can get the insert pages at ASUS'S Crappy Ass website. I am really venting here and I am sorry for that but I only found this page recently due to the fact of this board. I seriously have lost allot of respect for some of the manufacturers lately and not that this is of matter to them it is just that they are not there to make a quality product. Don’t waste any more money on hardware though if you plan on keeping these boards go get XP I am sure that this will fix it. I have not tried it yet, but I do personally own an ASUS A7N266-VM at home and it runs Linux... "Granted much different here" since I am not using its 6 channel Audio drivers but the board can be stable. Mine has been on for 103 days and counting. The biggest problem with the board to me is that Nvidia has stated that this model is the low end for the elegant gamer yada yada. They even do not include drivers for windows 98 First edition and that is know to me.. But WTF is the reason for writing drivers for 98SE and not being rated for it.. Is this so the low end gamer can buy a new OS or what.. I do believe that if you Disable the Sound card in the bios the Fatal exception will be remedied as well, though I have not tried this because it makes no sense to me. I can imagine that you may think, “Gee this guy has allot of fixing theories that he has not even tried”. I have done the Sound card thing and never received the BSOD or the memory warning.. However the machine will not power down then. This is not the common Windows 98 Second edition shutdown error e
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From: Guru^garzaH on 11/15/2002
Hmm I don’t know exactly what you mean by downgrading your bus speed to 133? Did you mean from 133? Anyway I have the same problem. I tried new memory, I had some cheap stuff in there and decided to use crucial. The fatal exception did go away but was replaced with a Beep code stating there was no memory. Crazy I mean the machine will religiously boot up no problem most of the time. I can go through do a clean install, install the drivers "any set of them" and just reboot the machine and the error will appear after an average of 7 times. So I am saying that with crucial DDR I get "only after 7 reboots" no memory error "Beeep-beeep-beeep" or I will get the fatal exception with other memory. I tried a new power supply and same thing regardless of what wattage or brand I am talking 35 volts to the 5 AMP. I am not sure if indeed this MB is not rated for WIN98SE since they have drivers for it on there website. I do however understand that Windows98 is unsupported "first edition" So I don’t know why Nvidia would make a chipset driver for 98SE if they did not rate it for that. However I can almost guarantee that the problem would be fixed if XP or 2K were installed on the machine. It just sucks though, I am so sick of these inconsistent models of crap that is released lately "NAMELY ASUS". The jumper settings for the memory and bus speed are wrong in the manual for this stupid board. The right ones are silk-screened on the board.. or you can get the insert pages at ASUS'S Crappy Ass website. I am really venting here and I am sorry for that but I only found this page recently due to the fact of this board. I seriously have lost allot of respect for some of the manufacturers lately and not that this is of matter to them it is just that they are not there to make a quality product. Don’t waste any more money on hardware though if you plan on keeping these boards go get XP I am sure that this will fix it. I have not tried it yet, but I do personally own an ASUS A7N266-VM at home and it runs Linux... "Granted much different here" since I am not using its 6 channel Audio drivers but the board can be stable. Mine has been on for 103 days and counting. The biggest problem with the board to me is that Nvidia has stated that this model is the low end for the elegant gamer yada yada. They even do not include drivers for windows 98 First edition and that is know to me.. But WTF is the reason for writing drivers for 98SE and not being rated for it.. Is this so the low end gamer can buy a new OS or what.. I do believe that if you Disable the Sound card in the bios the Fatal exception will be remedied as well, though I have not tried this because it makes no sense to me. I can imagine that you may think, “Gee this guy has allot of fixing theories that he has not even tried”. I have done the Sound card thing and never received the BSOD or the memory warning.. However the machine will not power down then. This is not the common Windows 98 Second edition shutdown error e
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From: Jeff on 11/07/2002
We build a lot of our computers with the A7N266 VM. We have had the same problem in about 9/10 of the computers. I contacted ASUS and they said we weren't using the correct memory, they suggested Mushkin or Corsair. We switched memory in a few machines, same problem. Did Bios Update, Same problem. Now they are claiming it is the power supply. Let me know if a different power supply works, I'd like to know before we go spending all of this money on new power supplies.
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From: Gary on 10/31/2002
Wow. I have exactly the same problem. Funny thing is, I have the exact same configuration, too. Am going to try cahnging the power supply. Will let you know if it works.
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From: Jeff on 09/25/2002
Hate to tell you this but the Asus A7N266-vm are not rated for win98SE. This comes from Asus themselves. You may try downgrading you Clock speed to 133Mhz. This will stablize the CPU and Memory. You may also want to check and make sure your power supply is sending out the right voltage also. I have seen in the past memory errors related to the CPU not cycling properly due to lack of power. I would recommend going out and getting a new MB though. You'll have nothing but problems with this one. Sorry for the bad news

: fatal exception 0E has occured at 0167:BFF8AB97

: The above blue screen error comes up atleast 33%

: of the time I switch on the machine ...

: It happens in all my 2 machines

:
: specs:-
: 1)motherboard Asus : A7N266-VM
: 2)processor: ATHLON 1700XP in one machine
: and DURON 1.1 in another
: 3) RAM : DDR 256MB in one machine and
: DDR 128MB in another
: 4)both machines have network cards and
: CD ROM drive ....
: 5) Windows 98 SE

:
: how do I trouble shoot this error

: chris


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